Klacht: Wrong bill Threatening letters

djcatshow op 14 april 2019 over EnergieDirect in de categorie Energieleveranciers

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Klacht opgelost op 19 april 2019
Reactie van het bedrijf:

I understand there's a lot of confusion about the annual bill and that you disagree with it, and with our arguments. You keep sending us this years readings. We do not require the current meter readings. If we want to...

Klanttevredenheid: 1.0/10 ★☆☆☆☆
Status Opgelost
Datum 14 april 2019

Een klant van EnergieDirect uit zijn verbazing over de gebrekkige interne communicatie binnen het bedrijf, waardoor onjuiste facturen niet worden gecorrigeerd. Ondanks herhaaldelijk contact met de klantenservice en toezeggingen tot herberekening, blijft de klant bedreigd worden met onjuiste aanmaningen. De klant overweegt juridische stappen te ondernemen als de juiste factuur niet wordt verstuurd.

Mijn Klacht:

To whom it may concern:

First of all, I am very surprised by the apparent lack of internal communication at Energiedirect, it seems like those responsible for charging for unpaid bills are not informed if a bill is not correct! As a result Energiedirect puts its own business at risk for litigation as they are intimidating people with bills that just are not correct. I have a legal insurance in the Netherlands and will forward this case to a lawyer if that business doesn’t send us the correct bill!

More than ten times I have been in contact with the customer service and told them at least as many times that the bill sent to us is wrong! I do not recognize that bill and customer service has communicated to me in writing that they will recalculate.

There was a significant error when Energiedirect just estimated our consumption, that business did not accept our input online at the start of the contract. Then later on they estimated nearly twice as much as we consumed and we do not recognise that debt! We have sent the correct meter reading to them several times, we do expect an answer with the correct bill.

Energiedirect should talk to their own customer service first before sending out another threatening letter to us!

We want them to stop sending us letters with intimidating content!

We will go to the police if Energiedirect does not stop!

Energiedirect sent us a bill that we do not recognise and it was said in writing by them that they will recalculate. We are waiting for the new calculation for over a month as agreed in writing.

We will charge you 500 Euros for every unfair, unfounded and intimidating letter that we will receive from now on!

Gewenste Oplossing:

We want the correct bill, based upon the meter reading that we provided.

Beoordeling 1/10 star-1 (10)

Bericht van Robin van Klacht.nl

6 jaren geleden - Ik heb een email gestuurd naar EnergieDirect over deze klacht.

Bericht van EnergieDirect

6 jaren geleden - Thank you for questioning! To be fair a correction of the meterreading is possible. You have given us the electricity reading but not the gas readings. To be precise, we dont have a picture. You only had a personal estimate but this is invalid. Please provide us with the gasreading of today. Based on the current reading, a different kind of estimation possible. This will be based on you own usage. Once we have that, we can make the correction. So please provide it as quickly as you can. As of now, the contract is terminated due to bills that are not paid as of yet. We will discuss the possibilities once the correction is made. Kind regards, Webcare Energiedirect.nl

Reactie van de melder van de klacht

6 jaren geleden - Hello, I was happy to communicate with you but again another colleague of yours (that does not seem to know anything about the case) has answered me with completely wrong statements. It seems like your colleagues from customer service and finance do not have any overview of the running cases, do you not have a Zendesk or similar system so you can give consistent communication to your customers? I will post on here again the message I have sent in my email, so at least you are aware of the status and can act competently. To whom it may concern: It is again with shock that I receive another message from Energiedirect that does seem to ignore my arguments on purpose, or to then use them in a way that suits its interests – rathar than accept them for what they are. Furthermore, I am again witnessing the complete lack of internal communication amongst co-workers of your business. In a nutshell: I disagree to the termination of the contract, as there are no legal grounds for it from your side. I disagree with your arguments, as they are wrong. I disagree with this bill and do not accept it due to what I stated in my very many messages to you and also due to the points above. To clarify: You state that I did not send over our meter readings in January 2018. This is not correct, I did in fact send them over but it was due to a system fault of your own that I was not able to transmit them. After I complained in writing, I have written ation by your business from 23 of January 2018 that I have tried to send them over but that you did not accept them. Hence if any calculation (of both monthly payments and end of year final billing) was done wrongly, this is due to the fault of Energiedirect. To now try to make me pay for your business unprofessionalism and mess is unnaceptable and outrageous and I do insist on a reasonable bill that reflects both your mistake and our real consumption. You state correctly that you are our suppliers of gas and energy from 2nd of January 2018 onwards, still you try to charge for a period that you were not supplying us. I do not understand that, as it is not logical and has no legal grounds and hence I do refuse to accept being billed by you for this period. Furthermore this does only what I try to tell you for so many times: That you supplied us much less energy and gas than you are trying to charge for! You state that you want to terminate the contract with us. I do not agree to a termination of the contract unless it comes with a financial compensation for all the hazzle you caused us, compensation for any damages and losses incurred due to not having a contract with you (I have three children below the age of four!) and a complete pardon of the bill you are trying to charge us for. What I want from you: I did send you all our meter readings again recently, including picture evidence. Three (3) of your colleagues told me that I will have my bill re-calculated to reflect our real life consumption with you. Please refer to them and come back with this bill as was promised and agreed on in writing with your business. If you do not come back to me within five working days from today onwards, I will hand over this matter to my lawyers in the Netherlands.

Bericht van Robin van Klacht.nl

6 jaren geleden - Deze klacht is zojuist door EnergieDirect in behandeling genomen

Bericht van Robin van Klacht.nl

6 jaren geleden - We hebben bericht ontvangen dat EnergieDirect een oplossing geplaatst heeft bij deze klacht

EnergieDirect

Heeft op 19 april 2019 om 13:24 geantwoord

Geboden Oplossing:

I understand there's a lot of confusion about the annual bill and that you disagree with it, and with our arguments.

You keep sending us this years readings. We do not require the current meter readings. If we want to make a correction of the annual bill, we have to adjust the readings of January 2, 2018. If you send those to us, we can adjust the bill.

However, seeing as both energiedirect.nl and Essent use the same calculated reading on that date, Essent will send you a new final bill if we correct the readings from January 2018. All the consumtion that we arguably overcharged, would still have to be paid somewhere because the usage has been made. On that note, it doesn't really matter to which supplier you're paying the usage to. It would only shift your costs from energiedirect.nl to Essent.

We're willing to help you correct the annual bill, but we need the right data in order to do this (readings January 2nd, 2018). You may send them to [email protected].

djcatshow

Heeft op 04 mei 2019 om 08:59 geantwoord

Beoordeling 1/10 star-1 (10)

Hello, as said in my many communications, if Essent wants to charge me then they should send me their bill. I do not agree to pay to your business what you say I do owe to another business. Furthermore I told you several times that I have tried to send you the readings back in 2018 and I have a confirmation in writing by your customer service that there was a fault in your system, hence you could not take the reading. I have lost the readings of the time and the pictures (and legally I am also not obliged to take pictures of everything). Your customer service told me that I will get a corrected bill and I did actually find pictures of the electricity reading that I did forward to you.
By calculation it is simply impossible to use that much energy as you want to charge us for one year, hence due to the above, your communications stating that you will send us a corrected bill, by logic and mathematic and according to the laws of the Netherlands, I do request the corrected and fair bill that reflects our consumption, nothing more, nothing less. Thank you!

Bericht van EnergieDirect

6 jaren geleden - Goodafternoon, I understand it's a difficult situation and that you don't agree with how things are going right now. Unfortunately in this case, this is not up to you. We explained the situation a few times and offered you a payment plan. We've noted your protest, but we can't help you in the way that you want. There are certain rules between energy companies about shiftedcalculated usage. There is only a certain amount of time to correct usage with the old supplier. If it's too late to correct, you'll have to pay the 'old' usage with your current supplier. These are rules we have to follow. Only in very exceptional cases we can correct an old usage, but we do need pictures from the correct date. If we don't have the correct pictures from january 2018, we can't correct the invoice. It's just not possible. You state it yourself, that you unfortunately do not have this picturesreadings anymore. The usage on the yearly invoice is more than you would normally have in one year, because the previous meter readings were calculated. You didn't pay enough with you previous supplier. They did not charge enough usage, because they did not receive meter readings. They were calculated too low. I understand that you tried to supply the meter readings online in january 2018, but you did not succeed because of a warning about the usage. You can click through in this case, but I can imagine this is difficult to understand when you're not familiar with the form. We can't change anything about this right now. At the time we did not receive the meter readings via e-mail of telephone, so we can only come to an agreement right now. Did you check your old invoices? You can probably see that you paid a very small amount in the past and didn't 'use' a lot because of meter readings which were calculated too low. Maybe you even got some money back. I think you can understand that right now you will have to pay for the energy you did use in the past, but did not pay for. I want to prevent it from getting worse (third party), so I have to be clear about this. I can understand it's a lot to pay at once, so we do want to offer you a payment plan. We want to help you pay the outstanding costs in terms. If you want a payment plan for the outstanding amount please contact us personally via facebook, twitter, 0900-3347328 or [email protected]. Webcare energiedirect.nl

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